I’m almost scared to write this post. I feel like I am talking out against the cult. I worry that I’ll be ostracized like a leper from a community that prays before the Thermomix, but I’m taking the chance.
I just don’t love the Thermomix.
Of course I’ve used it. I had to after I spent $2000 on it *bows head in shame*. I was even momentarily taken in on the night I ground and dry roasted my own spices. But I can’t serve roasted spices or even curries every night of the week.
Don’t get me wrong. The Thermomix is great at what it does. Other than the mashed potato (see below), the food that I have made in it has been great, it was tasty, it was easy to make and the kitchen was exceptionally clean on the Thermomix dinner nights.
But I am not finding it life changing. I wonder in awe what the people who say they use it every day are doing with it. What on earth do they eat every day? And don’t tell me they are making bliss balls or bread because I don’t want to change the way I eat just because I bought a new kitchen appliance.
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I think part of my problem is I’m not a soft food lover. I like my food with crunch (apparently that means I’m angry but whatever). I’ve made outstanding porridge and mashed potatoes in it but a woman with teeth demands more substance to her meals. Plus that’s a lie. I even fucked up the fabled mashed potatoes because apparently I used the wrong potatoes. I’ve never had a problem making mashed potato before – even with the “wrong” spud.
The wonderful woman who sold it to me (and she is wonderful) is distraught that the Thermomix hasn’t changed my life. She’s urging me to make muffins and biscuits and all manner of baked goods. And I have. But I made all manner of baked goods before I had a Thermomix with much the same result. Plus I really, really don’t need an appliance to add more snack food to my life.
I can’t cook a soup big enough to entertain my extended family on a Friday night plus I don’t know that I have the heart to cook soup without love, where love may just mean intervention. For instance when Little Pencil was sick last week I made him soup before I even thought of administering Panadol (it’s the Jewish mother in me). But to give the soup the mother/anti-biotic treatment I had to fuss over it a bit, adding some love and tenderness as it cooked, throwing in some care and concern, scooping out the fat and nurturing the healing properties of the soup. I’m not the “leave the food to do its thing while I do something else” kind of person. I’m like to tinker. I find the Thermomix is not made for the person who likes to tinker.
I’ve joined the Facebook groups and the online communities, I’ve seen a bazillion recipes for breads and buns and muffins and sauces and sorbets and very soft foods but tell me people of the Thermomix cult, when you aren’t eating soft food and baked goods what are you eating?
Can someone please try make me fall in love with my Thermomix. Please.
I know it’s not crunchy, but what about risotto? Have to admit I don’t think I’d be a Thermomix person. My love of cooking is in the creating, not the adding ingredients to a machine.
Exactly. I love creating food. And for me risotto is like soup – it needs love and attention during cooking xx
Yes, with a nice glass of wine in hand as you stir
Risotto. As the Kate’s say : ” dinner porridge”
if you love creating, perhaps try Dani Valent’s In the Mix books… degustation style dishes with the help of the Thermomix. very indulgent!
It cost $2000, just pretend to love it!
*repeats after Emily I love my thermomix, I love my thermomix, I love my thermomix*
Fake it til you make it!! ( Didn’t work for me, but you never know…… love the ‘mix,’ love the mix…….)
You really fail at cults, don’t you! 😉
Bloody hate Kool Aid 🙂
Thank God, there is someone out there who doesn’t love it. I really, really don’t want to spend $2000. I have a history of getting sucked in by these things. First I bought a Macbook because everyone told me it would change my life – it didn’t. Then I started doing Isagenix because everyone I knew was having a life changing “best I’ve felt in years” experience with it. I gained six kilos and felt so exhausted I could bared type while I was on it. And yet despite my history I have been seriously considering jumping on the Thermomix bandwagon. I’m stepping away from the Kool Aid now.
Your comment made me laugh! Let my experience be a lesson to you xxx
A MacBook is an effective and very good computer, but I can’t see how it’d change a life.
If you don’t love it, don’t buy it. It took me a year and a couple of demonstrations to make up my mind. I use it most days and I love it, but it’s not for everyone. I am very time poor and I am a pretty bad cook so it’s been wonderful for me in terms of whipping things up on a Sunday to put in the freezer for a week. Also, during summer I don’t use it much. Although I do use it for sorbets and smoothies (and cocktails… !)
I think that if you’re good at cooking and/or you enjoy it then maybe a thermy won’t be for you. It’s incredibly expensive and I did go through a few weeks where I thought “what the hell have I done?” Not only did it take me a year to make up my mind it also took me a year to save up for it. But it saves me about $50 per week in groceries and for me, in a single parent household, that makes it a good buy. But each to their own 🙂
I have loved the food at each of the several demos I’ve been to, but I just can’t part with the cash. I get what you’re saying about crunch too. I guess you can use it to mix things like bread sticks etc that will then become crunchy when you bake them! It’s nice to hear someone speak out against the cult actually, although I hope you do manage to find $2000 worth of good recipes as you continue exploring the forums. I think it’s a ‘lifestyle choice’ and it simply might not suit everyone. Good luck!
My lifestyle is very crunchy 🙂 xx
The raw salads are very crunchy! I wanted a Thermomix so much I became a consultant to buy it and haven’t looked back. I use it for soft foods as you call them, baking, steaming (I even steamed a steak – try it before you knock it), making healthy snacks for the kiddies, stocks, sauces, pastes, castor/icing sugar, baking powder, flours, breads (pitta, naan, rolls etc) yoghurt, peanut butter, mayonnaise, fruit pastes for cheese platters (saves me about $60 a kilo), washing powder, body scrubs, dog biscuits and so on. The list is endless ☺
Thank goodness I came across this! I have started to question myself on whether I needed one. And now I’ve been reminded that I don’t. The South African in me tells me I also like to eat my food with crunch and also, if I make all this baked goods, I will just want to eat them before the kids even see them! Thanks for showing me the light!
Yes, you see that’s the problem with making baked goods – you make them you eat them. Especially with my will power!
I think it’s a shame your post is discouraging people from checking out the thermomix for themselves 🙁
You’ve angered the cult of thermomix
😂
This is my fear. I’ve just purchased one. Waiting for delivery but I’m already second guessing myself. I’m hoping the theory it will save me time is very true especially with 2 children under 3. So to encourage that love I’ve already name it Rex to encourage the bonding before it arrives! Wish me luck!
Rex WILL save you money and time. And he will help you develop a taste for soft food. Seriously though, the things that it does, it does well – it’s just er, soft
Don’t second guess. It is a wondferful machine. Thermofun has meal plans all done in the thermo. Dont listen to others who say they didnt like it, thats their opinion. Get it, learn to use it…it took me a month to LOVE it. Go back to the reasons why YOU bougt it. Ease? Speed? Fresh Ingredients? Less additives? Its a fantastic kitchen helper. I use mine for meals every day. Plus prepping lots of other items. I even make my own clothes wasing detergent!
Totally agree. Part of the challenge for me was finding different ways to use it. So many awesome recipes out there. Go to a cooking class once a month. I did this for a while, and challenged myself to make one ‘new’ meal a week using thermi. I may not use it every day, but I feel NO guilt about that. Beats the other items in the house that have cost significantly more only to be rarely used. Now lets talk about hubby’s 7 bikes – and as a consequence I feel no guilt about my thermi.
It is your opinion too when you said it is a good machine?! Doh!
I’m guessing with two kids under 3 you’d want lots of soft food and not have a lot of time to prepare! So hopefully will be perfect for you:)
I’ve had one for a few years now and still use it consistently even though not everyday. The strength of the motor means you can grind things like but butter to a great insistence whereas another food processor simply couldn’t. You’ll love it if you keep it handy and don’t succumb to too many prrocessed foods.
I was given the Kogan version of the thermomix for Christmas, and although I appreciate having it, I’m glad I didn’t spend $2k. I made profiteroles on the weekend, the choux pastry, custard and chocolate icing all in the Thermoblend, so it most definitely saves on dishes, but that’s about it. Would I buy another one? I’m not sure. I think the main reason it gets used more is because it sits on the bench.
Good point – the fact that it is on the bench makes it very accessible – and well done you on the profiteroles. I LOVE profiteroles
I have had the Kogan version (which we ended up sending back when it broke) and now own the Thermomix. There is NO comparison.
They are light years apart in design, engineering and features.
Thermomix is not the be-all and end-all of kitchen appliances, but as mentioned by many others above, what it does, it does very well.
I love carrot and apple salad, cada, pesto, sorbet type things. (& baked goods and soups!) I can’t help feeling that maybe it just isn’t a good fit for you. It wouldn’t be for everyone. I am a bit impatient, lazy and greedy so it is perfect for me! Maybe sell yours? Second hand market is thriving!
I am determined to find a way to use it more! 🙂
I felt this way about tHe Bellini. I loved the sauces it made, but felt the other things were bland and lacked crunch. I took mine back after it broke twice.
We need more crunch in our food!
Oh. I’m completely in love with mine. But I get it, I do. Have a look at Dani Valent’s 2 thermo books (in the Mix 1 & 2) for some of the cheffy recipes. I adore those. You could always sell it! xx @segoviasuz
Going to have a look – thank you x
for that sort of money, Give me a Kitchenaid Mixer any day. With all the attachments including the mincer and sausage maker, the pasta machine and the ice cream churn.
I’m so glad you wrote this, and it completely understand what you mean about tinkering. For me, it’s all about the tinkering, the tasting, the bits of this and dashes of that, the sipping, rolling, adding a bit more salt, the smell of cooking, the sound, the colour and movement. Cooking is a hands-on experience, with all the mess that brings.
I think this sort of gadget fetishises food. And you don’t want me getting in my soapbox about THAT.
I love that I feel the same way as you do xx
Im not a fan of the thermie either…..for my large family its simply not big enough.
I spoke to a friend, that “just makes dips” in hers, and regrets her purchase. Yup, heaven help you
if you criticize the machine. Ive been to two demo’s to make sure I wasnt being unfair. Its just not for me…good luck to those who love it
i’m with you, Lana. I am not a Thermomix lover… My mother has one and keeps casually dropping into conversation that I can borrow it whenever I want. I suspect that she is not a Thermomix lover either!
Even more controversially, I am not a slow cooker lover either. All that soft food… I still have my own teeth so I want to use them!
Second confession of the day – Cannot stand the slow cooker, not nearly enough flavour and absolutely no love xx
I thought I was the only one that thought the slow cooker didn’t have flavour!
Everyone went crazy about the slow cooker for a while. Yes it’s great that you just chuck and cook but nothing tastes the same as if you made it all up step by step!
I have to say, most people use their slow cooker incorrectly, having been told umpteen times to just plonk the food in and walk away while the slow cooker does its thing. Which is great but you don’t get the depth of flavour you seek that way.
I always advise you brown the meat and onions and garlic in a pan, the way you would start any other casserole, then add the sauce to the pan and bring it to the boil, scraping up all the baked on bits. Transfer the browned meat and sauce to the slow cooker then let it do its thing. Also, only use about 2/3 of the liquid advocated in most recipes. Depth of flavour and less liquid. Try it.
Oh, thank the lord, at last someone reveals the secret of the slow cooker…I know it’s one more pan to wash, but worth it for the flavour!
Yep that’s me Sandra Reynolds , I do love my slow cooker ,brown your goodies and so forth first.and I still tinker around ,ha ha . Yum. I have not tried the thermie yet but have tasted a few recipes,got to say nothing to write home about. My niece made a Xmas cake one year , that turned me way off yuk!!!. Cheers.
I’m with you! You can’t cook a good steak & salad in the thing! Also, I have been invited to attend a ‘demonstration’ this weekend, obviously to try & get people to buy one, but the demonstrator is charging people to attend!! I can’t believe it! And there are over 50 people attending so she will make a fortune for her 2 hours!
Sounds like a cult to me!
I think you’ll find this is probably a cooking class and the cost covers the food and hire of venue etc. enjoy
The demonstration was what lured me in – they made very delicious food! But it was all a bit soft in hindsight 🙂
That will be a cooking class. There won’t be just one lady doing it all, and everyone who helps out gets no pay. It all goes to the venue & ingredients. I help at these reguarly :). It’s more a way of supporting our TMX owners to keep them inspired. 🙂
There’s no cost to attend a demo at all, but you might be referring to a cooking class. That’s different, and the $20 or so is just to cover part of the cost of cooking 10 courses for everyone
It’s ok,give yourself a break. You don’t HAVE to love it. Use it for what it’s good for. I used to be a consultant and I have 2, but I rarely use them to cook a main meal. I believe some things are just better done on the stove top with a wooden spoon and love and attention. BUT, I do love it for almond milk, smoothies, curry pastes, stocks, bread, pastry, tortillas, porridge, pancake batter, steaming veg and rice. The list goes on. If you feel like you need to justify it’s existence, treat it like a border collie trapped in a 3rd floor apartment and re-home it somewhere it’ll get more love and let go of the guilt!
I am going to learn to love my border collie and take him for long walks in open fields (ie find recipes with crunch)
xx
Gotta say that I don’t often prepare full meals in it, but damn, I make fabulous yoghurt (which we eat daily), and my own butter & pesto, and hummous, and stock, and cook rice and quinoa in it, and prepare all the components of great “other food” meals. My food processor had died before I bought it, so the replacement was worth it. But, let’s just say there are different strokes for different folks – you have to enjoy doing what you’re doing!
I’m going to – just as soon as I find out what everyone is using it for – that’s not soft! 😉
I love it. I don’t find the food mushy, I just find it saves heaps of time and makes a lot less mess. I do make a lot of curries, pasta dishes, soups and juices (which upon reflection is pretty soft), but most of all, I think the thing we love best is the fudge (it’s almost a food group in itself.) I agree though, it’s not a machine for chicken soup, because that is best made by hand and made with love. However, I am tempted to try and make my own kneidlach in it… watch this space!
OMG fudge is my favourite food group! And can I just say that I loved that you mentioned kneidlach so much that I almost shed a tear! xxxx
Oh I love this post so much!! Lana…the ONLY good thing about the Thermomix is a Thermomix party…I mean “Demonstration”. There you get to eat all the yummy food and say, “No way in hell am I paying $2000 for that thing!!”
🙂 xx
I bought a bellini – a cheap thermomix knock off and initially I was taken- I had the summer holidays off work and enjoyed making all sorts of things I usually wouldn’t. But the novelty wore off – I still like that it can grind stuff and make smoothies but lots of stuff tasted better and was often easier to cook the normal way.
Mashed potato- faster and easier in a pot. Anything with onion Browns better I a frypan and has a better flavour.
I don’t really use it that much at all now,
I also loved mine the first week – and I have to agree with you, anything with onions requires a frypan! xx
I am so glad I’m not alone, though I haven’t bought one, I like my food crunchy to.
Crunch is good xx
If u want to sell it, im desperate for 1, just cant afford $2000
I’m desperate to learn how to love it!
i am a sucker for appliances. I have a kenwood chef major and adore it. It has all the attachments you want except a good food processor. I want a thrmomix to make those bliss balls and paté. That’s it! I am low carb high fat and i don’t do baled goods anymore.
Forgot to mention that this family of five big eaters would probably need 2 to get a decent feed out of it!! I use huge big staub pots to cook in cos we looove leftovers around here!
I also love leftovers! And I only have a small family but I don’t think it’s big enough to make a truly satisfying meal with leftovers (so that I don’t have to cook the next day)
I don’t use it as much as I should cause also don’t do sloppy.
But do a lot chopped salads with nut, seeds etc. 2 secs spd 5 …. no more! Puree salad, Yuk.
More than 2 seconds can easily lead to mush – I’m sticking with your 2 secs speed 5!
All I can say is thank you for this post, I to have a Thermomix that I had to spend all that money on thinking it was going to be the best thing out. Yet to discover that I actually enjoy old style cooking much more, my veggies in soups or stews chunky and like you always going back to check how it’s going. In saying all that I do use it for quick things like blending veggies to disguise for food, smoothies, quiches, icing, all that kinda stuff, made a lamb shank streamed with sauce other other day and it was so gross, the sauce was just mush.seed a waste of good shanks would’ve been better doing in slow cooker for hours, glad I’m not the only one out there who doesn’t rave about it, altho I do know a lot who do absolutely love it, so each to there own. I honestly wouldn’t part with it now cos it cost me so much, but would in hind sight not buy another one ..thanks for the good read..
In saying slow cooker I’m still forever at it (the occasional time I use it), checking it adding stuff taste testing it, so still adding lots of love to my slow cooker can’t help myself..can’t leave things alone for too long haha
You sound just like me – I don’t want to part with it as much as learn to use it better xx
Yah! I feel so much better now. I have one amd feel exactly the same way. I use it to grate my parmessan and to make smoothies. I love to cook and that is why I don’t like my thermomix.
I think that’s the common thread – people who like to cook a lot don’t love the Thermomix xx
I disagree, I love cooking and creating and the Thermomix gives me that ability as well as being able to not have to serve pasta every night just because I have kids! 😉 I love dishing up new feasts every month and there is certainly enough food handling still to be done! Peeling carrots, dicing meat, etc.
You can’t possibly need ‘crunch’ at every meal?? Are you a big fried food fan? Start thinking about what things you buy premade, and see if you can swap them. Do you buy mayo for your sandwiches? BEST mayo in Thermie! Do you eat bread at all? Saves you buying it! Do you buy icecream? Tomato paste? Yogurt? Almond meal? How about breadcrumbs!? Have you SEEN the ingredient list on a shop-bought packet??? There is like 40 ingredients and one of them is TUNA! :-S Do you ever steam your veg or do you ALWAYS eat raw salads? Have you tried the Broccoli Salad from the book? Do you ever buy biscuits?
It may not be for you, but if you’re determined to love it… I’m just trying to help! 🙂
Its an over priced blender. $2000 theyre flogging a label and a self perpetuating myth. I cant believe they charge people to attend their flogging parties. Its a cult and just like the Emperor with his new clothes all the sheeple are being duped.
Thanks for making me smile once more Lana, oh and you are spot on about your soup making. Soup, especially chicken soup made without love is useless you might as well open a tin.
I’ve been to three demos (in Brisbane) – NEVER been charged to attend?! Maybe someone is having a lend of you.
Angela’s comment above.
I wasn’t charge to attend the demo but I did get a full meal – that said I can see the Emperor’s new clothing theme quite clearly 😉
Who told you that? They never charge for a demo. Ever. I’d imagine a (ex?) consultant would be in very hot water if they even tried
Angela’s comment above
I’d out money on it Angela is talking about a cooking class NOT a demonstration. Two very different things. You are not allowed to charge ppl to attend a demo.
They don’t charge for demos.
I don’t use mine as much as the fully converted, but I still love it.
My mum brought apple and apricot pie over with the cupboard custard. (which I love!) Opened the custard and it was off. What did we do? Sent the kids into the kitchen, (teenagers) and they made custard. Threw it all in and minutes later we had perfect custard. Sigh……….
I love the custard, mash potato, sticky date pudding, (THE best!), risotto, strog, icecream, broccoli pasta, salami pasta and it gets used every morning for 5 smoothies.
I don’t really mind that I don’t use it for other stuff. Mine is a combined effort for a milestone birthday. Would I have bought it on my own? Probably not. Did I get a ‘personal’ present the next year to make up for it? Yes!! But I’m still grateful for ol’ Thermie. 🙂
You could send it to me …? 😀 heehee
Still trying to learn to love it 😉
My advice? Gumtree! You’d probably get a fair chunk back for it.. Which you could use to buy delicious goodies with extra crunch!
I don’t own one but I’ve heard they have good 2nd hand retail value.
My friends tell me it’s the ability to make your own raw ingredients without the nasties too. I’m still on the fence, teetering at the thought of the risotto and sorbet.
I think the risotto needs more love to be really tasty!
Sell it, I’m sorry thermomix people but it totally takes the love out of making food!
I invested in an Ankarsrum Assistant it helps me make food but doesn’t take the process away from me, much better investment than a thermomix for the way I cook.
I have a Thermomix and consider it an excellent tool to make components of meals. I completely agree about the soft nature of the food prepared exclusively in it. But I have found that I am prepared to try more complex cooking because I know i can do some things more easily. But I have learned not to feel obliged to use it because of its price tag. If my Mixmaster gives me a better butter cream then I use that. But I know that whipping cream takes a fraction of the time in the thermomix. In my opinion, it is a luxury, and I love what it can do, but it goes away in a cupboard when I am finished until it next needs to help me (most days, but not all!).
Sounds very sensible!
Yes- I am a little ambivalent about mine for the same reasons, but like you, am determined to learn to love it. I make smoothies in it most mornings (but I didn’t need a 2000 blender for that). I made hot cross buns last weekend which was actually fun and they turned out really well (never having baked bready stuff in my life before). I have taken to making pizza dough once every few weeks, having healthy pizza nights and freezing the remains, turns out surprisingly well. It helps with the monthly family cook up (spag bol, curry, soups etc) but it’s not big enough for the actual cooking, so it just helps with all the chopping, prep etc, and it def does speed that up. I make Gwynth’s AMAZING banana ‘ice-cream’ in it – I would seriously rather eat this than real ice-cream. Yes – all soft. Sigh.
I’m off to check out Dani’s recipes….!
I also made hot cross buns and they were great. Going to try the pizza soon!
Do you follow The Road To Loving My Thermomixer? Not sure if I’m allowed to post links here, but if you Google it, it’ll come up. It’s a page by a woman who felt exactly the same way, was going to sell her TMX but challenged herself to use it more and see if she changed her mind. She did, and now she is a total convert! Her recipes are really good too – and some are even crunchy! 😉
Having said that, I have a knock-off (Kogan Thermoblend) and, while I love it, I don’t think it would be worth upgrading to a TMX – I don’t use it often enough to justify the price tag. But as you’ve already spent the money, maybe see if this site helps you get into it more! And if it doesn’t, you can sell it second-hand with no regrets. 🙂
Heard about her – going to give it a try. Thank you xx
when doubting the thermomix, just whip up a boozy jug of frozen margaritas in it, if the ease of making perfect frozen cocktails doesn’t change your mind, drink said jug and you’ll find you warm to it immediately
Best comment so far!!! xx
Agree!!! (cheers)
I was obsessed with buying a thermomix until i watched a whole lot of youtube thermomix recipe videos. It was so boring! And i love cooking shows. I love cooking – the process and fun of it. Yes, sometimes it takes longer but i tune out while i chop or enjoy music or talking with my partner while we cook together.
My obsession started after attending a demo and i do recall afterwards wanting to eat something crunchy for dinner as the demo was all soft (except for a raw beetroot salad, but a bit dry, needs dressing).
Lol, you sound just lie me, I love the process of cooking which was probably an indication that the Thermomix was not for me xx
I totally agree with this. I’m so NOT in love with my thermomix. I haven’t used it for months. I’ll still use it for some things, but definitely not used every day. Its the disconnection from food and the process that I don’t like about it and having to re-learn how to cook everything
Exactly. I don’t want to re-learn what I already know and love
My suggestion is have a look around and the different thermomix sites and you willing find a whole heap of not soft food. I do use mine everyday but took some time to train myself on how to use it. I do have 2 young children so the ease of letting it do its thing is helpful for me. Yesterday we had eggs Benedict for breakfast, sauce made in thermomix. Lunch was homemade baked beans for the children. Dinner was a roast chicken cooked in the varoma so it was ultra tender and then in the overn for 10 mins for the crunch. Dessert for the children was mangos bed Orange sorbet as I had heaps to use up.
Sounds good. I think I need to use the varoma more!
Lana you should subscribe to the 4 blades magazine through the App Store: or look up the road to loving my thermomix or the 4 blades website for the link to subscribe. Has different recipes on a theme each month. Last month was the varoma and steaming, others have been lunch boxes, healthy eating, teaparties etc. it’s really really good and heaps of ideas you could use. The lady that writes he road to loving my thermomix used to be like you and she trained herself to love it after seeing the potential of what it could do. Highly recommend
I’m happy to take it off your hands for you!
I will put it to good use!
Just make me love it 😉 xx
It honestly sounds to me like you’re really not their target market – I mean, you’re complaining that the food is soft and that you prefer to cook by hand, over the stove top. So DO those things, but if you insist of keeping your TMX you could just work out where it fits in to your life and saves you time/money.
I too love to cook by hand, so I often make cakes, etc, with my Kitchenaid mixer but use the TMX to mill the flour and sugar, etc, for me – so it’s healthier with less processing/preservatives. In saying that, I have made their awesome carrot cake and chocolate cake in a matter of mere minutes on the days when I’m in a rush and need to something quickly for a morning tea, etc – so there’s that! Even when I’m making my soups, etc, on the stove top and use the TMX to chop the herbs and veggies for me.
You mention your disdain for soft foods A LOT, and I get it – the thought of soup and casserole every day turns my stomach, but, as suggested here, you could use it to make salads/chop CRUNCHY coleslaw, cooking/baking ingredients, shakes, butter, juices/smoothies, pastry for pies, risotto to be fried in to arancini balls, sauces to go on the food that you are making on the stove top. So many ways to use it! Just look for what works for you. Start making your way through the cook book, saving recipes from the recipe community.
People on here moaning about the price and how it’s a rip off, etc – don’t buy it then! There will always be haters but I didn’t think that was the purpose on your article, since you’ve mentioned clearly that you want to keep it?
Also forgot to mention how awesome it is for making stock – that I then use to create crunchier dishes in the oven!
I never wrote the article to express hatred. I don’t hate it at all – just want to get recommendations on how to use it better – which you have given me, so thank you xxx
Yes, sorry for the confusion, I wasn’t calling you a ‘hater’ (hence saying I didn’t think that was the point of your article) I was referring to the people bagging the TMX in the comments on this post. Might not have made that clear enough though. I hope you’re able to make it work for you and hope the negativity around your blog post doesn’t put you off similar articles in the future!
I have had my Thermomix since October last year – and I do love it! It’s not for everyone though, and I don’t use mine every day (working full time, studying 4th year full time and raising a family really doesn’t leave me much time!). But I have come across some brilliant recipes that are quite left of field but suprisingly good! On the weekend I made Gary Mehigan’s Sous Vide Sirloin Steak, and also made some mini Angus Steak Filet Mignon’s all of which were huge hits with the family. I find half the adventure for me is finding ways to use the Thermomix that goes past the basic recipes you find in the cookbooks. Best of luck with finding you thermojo! 😉
Thanks Mel – your finds sound great – going to look for those!
I always thought that for that cost I would expect that someone comes with it to do all the cooking for you!!?? I think is a ridiculous price and seriously not worst it. I love cooking, I know it takes time but love doesn’t have a price and that what it makes meals so tasty and fulfilling, that machine is not a ‘soul cooker’ we women who enjoy their cooking are…
Ps: Does it make GREAT coffee? If not just sell it and go on a holidays or just buy something nice for you ;-))
I doubt it make coffee – but it’s worth researching it. I read about a woman who makes her own laundry detergent in hers!!!
Yes it does coffee lol! Grind the beans, add water and perculate to just the right temp (90C). Then use a plunger to get the grains out while you make a bowl of hot frothed milk.
We cook a lot of asian foods. Noodles with mince and sauces, lots of thai, malaysian and Indian curries from scratch, steamed hainese chicken rice (awesome!), wontons/dumplings for steaming/frying, pizza dough, homemade sauces and marinades for meat, salads etc. I use it to help any meal, whether oven, stovetop, bbq. Look outside the world of baked goods!
Hainanese Chicken rice *
Happy to look as Asian instead of baked goods. I love Asian food – but I can’t eat curries eevery night. Loving the idea of wontons and dumplings
tyr the sous vide cooked whole fillet of beef
or the BEST ever meat balls
what about a whole steamed chicken
the crunchy fresh colslaw with Asian dessing
as well as the best aid ever to any other cooking you do, like chopping stuff in a flash
Thanks for the suggestions – will try them!
I had the exact same thoughts as you. I love slaving over my food, adding a little more when needed. I never felt right about caving into the pressure to buy one not when I have everything I need in my home to cook large meals which is a need in an extened family. Soft food for little ones is a steamer pot & bar mix…. Easy when you add extra to the dinner your already cooking. Soft foods for me not a fan. & if I need to do a risotto or a stew quickly I bring out the pressure cooker (gift I didn’t spend)
I like the way you think!
If a kitchen appliance costs $100 or even $300, it doesn’t have to change your life. When a kitchen appliance costs $2,000, it had better change your life. I mean, isn’t that what you are paying for? It’s not like going from a hole in the ground to an electric or gas oven. It’s not like going from a washboard to a washing machine with enough computing power to launch a space shuttle. I have gone the other way. Apart from my toaster and beloved espresso machine, I have eradicated all other gadgets from my kitchen. It was a splendid garage sale! I have now been doing everything manually, from first principles. I love the satisfaction and workout I get. I have a demanding full time job. I have three children and a partner and I get them involved in preparing and producing every meal we have at home. To me, it’s not about saving time. I mean, what am I going to do with time I save? As a family, we talk and debate and do all the things a family does in the kitchen. I also reckon our electricity bill has declined significantly and that can’t be a bad thing.
Love the point you made about saving time – if you are preparing food with and for your family it’s hardly wasting time! xx
Hi Lana – I’ve been reading the comments and wanted to share with you. I consider myself a pretty advanced cook. I come from a family of keen cooks and we all own TM’s. I have found that it’s allowed me to be more creative.
Sure I don’t use it for everything but I use it for most things. Yesterday alone I made tortillas, pita pockets, onion jam flan, tahini and breadcrumbs for schnitzel.
I had the top of the range KitchenAid products but found that the TM was much faster, gave a better result and less cleaning time. If you were to buy all of the products that have the same functions as the TM it would cost you in excess of $2000 and has a shorter lifespan. For example a decent stand mixer is around $600. If you get a KitchenAid the pasta attached is an extra $200 or so. It made more sense to me to buy a product that is maintenance free, the blade never goes blunt and I can keep it forever.
I don’t really understand the comments about people using traditional methods of cooking when they all use machines for one thing or another. The TM has been around for 40 years so it’s not exactly a new appliance.
Anyways, here are some sites I use for recipes:
The Road to Loving my Thermomix
Thermofun
Super Kitchen Machine
Skinny Mixers
Quirky Cooking
Alyce Alexandra
Cooking with Tenina
Good luck with your quest xx
Also I wanted to add. If you want to taste as you are cooking just pause the TM, take the lid off, dip your spoon and have a taste. I do that all the time.
Thank you thank you for that great list!
I’m very similar to you, I like to tinker and I like to add love to my cooking. I use my thermomix for a lot of prep work, and I love it!
Things like homemade burgers – I use the thermomix to mince the chicken breast and finely chop onion and herbs – some of the salads in the everyday cookbook are great, and raw so full of crunch, ricotta style fillings to go with baked chicken and sauces, dressings etc. It’s very rare these days that I cook a full meal in the Thermomix.
Maybe I was just expecting too much in terms of main meals? xx
Hi Lana
I know you’re in NSW but if you’re ever in Melbourne, you should come to one of our Raw Food Classes/Workshops – http://www.buttermafia.com.au/classes.
Plenty of “crunch” in our foods, all made with love and we’ll teach you how to “tinker” when cooking with your Thermomix!
Thanks Kenn
Hi Lana,
I was one that bought my thermomix because I love kitchen appliances (like some love their cars, boats, porn whatever). I was never going to give away any of my other appliances that I have already – just add them. For me with 3 little children the ability to make food without being totally involved is fantastic and helpful (partner works over 80 hours per week).
I do a number of chopped salads in it – the coleslaw is good (I add horseradish, celery, white wine vinegar to spice it up), the beetroot one ion the chip is good as well. One from thermoflavour on the recipe community does a magnificent raw Brussels sprout salad with crispy bacon, almonds and parmesan which have converted many of my friends on the wonders of the sprout!
I love food with texture too, and it was never going to change everything I cooked it just makes a number of processes easier.
With your mashed potato I never fuss about the correct potato. For the ‘wrong’ potato I just cut it smaller, give it longer and with butter and cream at the end no one here has ever complained! I hope you learn to love it – just like my icecream maker (great huge heavy thing) I love what it does but couldn’t live on icecream/ gelato/ or sorbet every day. Its just a tool in my kitchen ~ maybe I haven’t really joined the cult either 🙂
I love your ice cream maker analogy – maybe I was just expecting too much xxx
I have to disagree PASSIONATELY that people who love to cook don’t love their Thermomix. Anyone heard of Jo Whitton? As in the Quirky Cooking blogger & author? She ADORES cooking, and her 3 (yes THREE) Thermomixes. I also adore cooking, and have owned a Thermomix for 4 years & love that too. To the point that my scales have broken & I bought a separate set of digital scales because I cannot bare to send it back to have them fixed. I still cook steak on the stove, & do a roast in the oven, and onions on the stove top, and I too would prefer to cook a soup or a curry on the stove where I can tinker with the flavour & put more love in the food. BUT I think where our difference is that I specifically bought the Thermomix to change how we eat, whereas you say in your post that you don’t WANT to change how you eat. My then-2 year old son (now 6) was diagnosed as coeliac & I sought out a Thermomix specifically to help me with making gluten free baked goods, including bread. I knew I didn’t want to feed him commercial gluten free food because there are SO many additives to give them shelf life & keep them soft, and gluten free breads & baked goods often require a variety of grains, nuts & seeds to work effectively, which if you buy them in flour form is EXPENSIVE. By using my Thermomix I can use whole grains/nuts/seeds from my cupboard & grind them into flours within seconds – soooo much cheaper. My husband & I also eat a lot of paleo food (not strictly, but as I’m dairy intolerant & we are both gluten intolerant, & we both work in sedentary jobs so don’t need tonnes of carbohydrates, the recipes work for us) & it just helps so much with that sort of thing. And yes I make Bliss Balls… but if I don’t make the bliss balls, I’m at the Paleo Café down the road paying $4 each for a bliss ball! So this works for us. I make my own nut milks which would be difficult without a Thermomix, I’d need to buy another powerful blender like a vitamix which doesn’t heat up so it’s pointless. I won’t use commercial nut milks because of the carrageenan & other additives. And I do use my varoma a lot – cook rice in the rice basket bottom, steam veg & often fish in the varoma, then use the remaining water from the rice (which becomes lovely & viscous) to make a sauce. I find making my own mayonnaise which I do weekly a cinch in the Thermy & while others would say you can do that in any food processor I ALWAYS mucked it up before I got my Thermomix. I do agree though, that if I hadn’t wanted to change how I cook, I probably wouldn’t love my Thermomix either.
Sounds like you made all the right choices with your Thermomix. I think when you bring something like an allergy or intolerance into the equation it changes things a lot. xxx
One word – Dacquiri
oh so good at that.
*DAIQUIRI
Very interesting subject, thank you for posting.
Of course I have tried that 😉 xxx
Tell us what you ate today… and all this week for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and we’ll try and tell you how Thermie could have helped/made it easier/saved you money. Yeah?!
For dinners I made teriyaki chicken (marinaded and baked in the oven), laksa (Ottolenghi recipe), Jamie Oliver mustard lamb, grilled fish and steak on the bbq. Happy to have any Thermie dinner suggestions – but please let them have texture 😉 xxx
OK this is what you should do . Make a omelette with a hand whisk 3 eggs and some grated parmesan oh and a little salt
whisk eggs and salt in your favourite bowl put a tablespoon or two of butter in a pan cook the butter on medium for a few minutes to get that nutty taste than pour in the eggs sprinkle the cheese on top cook for a few minutes this is love you have been missing .Sell that over priced soup bowl and get back to basics and remember eat the food you love and love the food you cook.
I love omelettes!
We have a Thermomix. It’s a clever machine alright, but they’re not a device for people who like to stir things. They’re for people who don’t like to stir things, or don’t even like to cook at all – and that’s what my wife and I are. We read the recipes, buy the ingredients and make things exactly as the book (or website or whatever) says. Start the machine, go and watch the news and wait for the beep. Serve and eat. You won’t see us on MKR any time soon. It’s not a religious artefact to us, it’s just an appliance.
We do have a kitchen device that changed our lives: the dishwasher.
LOVE your comment!
The thing with the Thermomix is, just like any other appliance, it can’t do everything. Sure, it can do a lot of things, but it’s not a complete kitchen. I’ve had one for around a year now, and I love it, but I don’t expect it to be able to do everything for every single meal.
I love cooking too – sometimes I feel like standing over the stove, stirring, adding, smelling, tasting. And sometimes I just don’t have the energy for it & am happy to throw everything into the TMX and let it do its thing (Quirky Cooking’s chicken & mushroom risotto is a great one for this).
I don’t often use it for full main meals, and sometimes I use it multiple times a day, and sometimes I don’t use it for a week. What I have found is that it’s given me the confidence to make things that I’d never made before, or would usually buy. Some of the best things I’ve made in it are pizza dough, bread rolls (Tenina’s soft buttermilk rolls), mayonnaise, custard, chocolate custard, ginger & lemon cordial, apple & berry crumble, flavoured butter, craisin & pistachio shortbread (another Tenina recipe – which have always been devoured by friends, one even saying they were the best biscuits he’s ever eaten), yellow curry paste, apricot jam.
I’d 100% recommend you check out Cooking with Tenina – I also have a couple of her cookbooks, and her “For Food’s Sake” gets a lot of use here. A lot of my favourites that I’ve listed above have come from Tenina’s book or website. Her Umami paste is amazing added to spaghetti bolognese!
I think once you stop expecting it to be able to do everything, and start discovering what it does do well, you might learn to love it. Despite the price tag, you don’t *have* to use it for absolutely everything. I have never really been an anti-additive campaigner, but I’ll admit that I do really like knowing exactly what goes into a lot of what we eat now. Also, I live in Switzerland (I’m an Aussie though) and the food available here is dull at best – so I like being able to easily make a lot of different things.
Thanks for your comment Jody – going to check out Tenina’s website now xx
Although you say you have joined online communities , obviously not the right one s. Try thermofun.com
Thanks – will try that one. Am currently being hauled over the coals on some of the communities for expressing my opinion 🙁
Awesome write up. We have had ours for 4 months and used it 5 times. I can make better food in my saucepan. Anyway, we got it out to clean it up on the weekend so we can sell it and the damn thing is broken down. Error messages on the handle getting stuck. Hunk of junk. Made good hollandaise sauce though.
I’ve been thinking about this today and something else has struck me. There are millions of people around the world who are starving. I’m part of a group that helps a village in Uganda and $2000.00 would feed all the kids in this village their one hot meal a day of porridge for 6 months and we blow it on a stupid blender which has been marketed to within an inch of its life.
To coin a phrase from Steptoe the worlds gone bloody mad.
And I’m sure none of us ‘need’ the type of car we drive/clothes we wear/make up we buy/footy memberships we have/weddings/birthdays/presents wepay for or wine/beer/food/restaurants we partake in and could otherwise donate.
My point is, those in glass houses……
No glass house for me. I drive a practical Mazda 6 diesel wagon, economical and carries the children and fulfils the role of taxi very well. Clothes well if you can find me anything cheaper that wont fall apart than two pairs of rivers jeans a few t-shirts two pairs of slacks for work and a few shirts and ties well that’s good let me know. Footy or indeed any memberships you’re joking right, sorry not me. yes I eat well, I buy fresh vegies and meat and as much as a I can from farmers markets yes the occasional restaurant trip with my children at modest prices. Presents well I’m a reasonable photographer so weddings etc I usually give a framed print. No I don’t wear a hair sack and I’m not a wowser or puritan I just think about the value of things and their relative worth. This Thermomix is a triumph of marketing over substance. It is a label that so many sheeple just “need” in a year or two you will see them all for sale for a few dollars at garage sales and trash and treasure markets. Just like all the other kitchen miracle worker utensils before them. Its a great con. Create an item talk it up price it to the moon to create a sense of exclusivity and that a person who buys one becomes a different sort of special being and flog, flog, flog. Then when the market is saturated after a couple of years create a new model without anyone even your sales reps knowing and repeat the process and laugh all the way to the bank. Its a cult , its a con and its sad.
Like I mentioned in my first post on this there is a story by Hans Christian Andersen called The Emperors New Clothes. It tells the story of how an Emperor and his kingdom were duped by a charlatan and like a heard of sheep allowed the charade to continue and grow. Until an innocent child burst the bubble and they all realised they had been fooled. Read it and see if the company that has created this product hasn’t used the thrust of this story as their business model.
PatrickC, you seem to have a lot of opinions about something that you’ve never seen in action or own. Firstly, Thermomix don’t charge for demonstrations. They do charge $20 for cooking classes to cover the cost of food.
Secondly, people are entitled to spend their money on whatever they like. I happen to be really passionate about cooking and find the Thermomix a really useful tool to assist with that. Thermomix has been around for 40 years so I hardly call it a fad.
I find it quite insulting that you call me and everyone else that own a Thermomix a sheep when all they are doing is trying to put healthy meals on the table for their families. I know someone that until owning a Thermomix wasn’t even able to cook as they were blind. The Thermomix has helped them to be able to cook as they can memorise the buttons.
Another friend of mine has an Autistic son who until owning a Thermomix was spending hours in the kitchen trying to put gluten free and dairy free meals on the table. She nows whips up nutritious meals in half the time so she can spend more time with her son.
I don’t judge you on your lifestyle choices so I don’t think it’s fair that you judge others.
Furthermore, did you know that Thermomix recently donated $1,000,000 to the Murdoch Foundation to assist in research for childhood allergies?
For a company that has sold a little over 200,000 Thermomix’s in Australia since 2001 I’d say that’s pretty amazing.
Forgive me for being a cynic but I bet that donation came off their taxation liability. I’d be very interested to see them declare what tax they pay or are they another Apple et al.
I have seen it “in action” as you call it two of my cousins got suckered into buying them. They rave like born again religious zealots. The so I know enough about it to make a basic judgement.
I’m really glad that it has helped your friend with her autistic child prepare him meals. I do a lot of work with families who have children living with Autism or Aspergeres. That’s good.
I’m not judging your lifestyle choice I just think that its a fad and pretty soon the next one will come along and so on and so on. You know like the George Forman Health Grill, The Vertical Health Grill, all the multitude of bread makers etc. They might have been around for 40 years but they’re marketing was as intense as it is now.
So sorry but its just another consumer object.
I’m glad you enjoy and hope that you continue to do so.
Ciao
Blast the auto correct. Remove the the before the So in sentence 3 para . remove the e from Aspergers. Finally its their marketing was never this intense.
If you want to support fair labour and supporting third world countries then you shouldn’t be shopping at Rivers and should be buying products that treat their labour fairly and pay decent salaries.
Just because there is a good product that people like to use and enjoy making food from scratch doesn’t mean you have to diss it.
If you didn’t buy a car and gave the money to the village in Uganda they would have enough food for a lot more than 6 months, you could get bicycles instead and donate the petrol money you are spending, win win by getting fit at the same time.
People earn money and spend it on what they want, that is the point of it really, why not enjoy what you work hard for every day, I donate to people in need but if I want a $2000 appliance I have worked for then I deserve it.
It’s a great appliance, it won’t change the world but it will help you make food without preservatives in it. It’s not a fad, it’s a blender and steamer and mixer, with new technology I’m sure we will get new products, that is part of evolving as human beings.
I’ve watched this discussion turn from general commiserations & suggestions post to nasty finger pointing & name calling & I think it’s sad. I think it’s perfectly ok that some people love something & some people don’t. What I don’t think is ok is pointing the finger, making assumptions & generally mouthing off. I own a 2002 Hyundai Getz car worth about $3000. My husband & I both have very low incomes. I am not inclined to follow fads, or spend even $5 without careful consideration, let alone $2000. I had a friend buy a Thermomix in 2009. I went to several demos & watched the craze take off as my much more affluent friends bought their Thermomixes. In 2012, after attending at least 10 demos (none of which I paid for), joining many Thermomix websites, going
To friends houses & using their Thermomixes, borrowing a friend’s Thermomix for 4 weeks while she travelled overseas, doing an enormous amount of spreadsheeting of our grocery lists & working out what we could save if we bought a Thermomix, we jointly decided this was a good investment for us & we bought one. We haven’t looked back, for us it has been the most useful and best thing we have ever bought for our family. It’s ok if you don’t love it, or don’t want one, or would prefer to spend all your time cooking rather than spending time with your family, but there is no need to get so nasty & make such wild assumptions as over-affluence, trend following, cult members, calling people “sheep”, accusing them of not caring about the less fortunate… I mean this is a huge jump, from buying a kitchen appliance to “You don’t care about starving children in Africa”. I don’t own a microwave. Never have, never will. But I don’t judge people who own them, I don’t care if they use them or what they use them for. I have 2 children & anotjer due in 8 weeks & was told before having kids that I “couldn’t survive” motherhood without a microwave. Well my eldest son is 6 & I still can’t work out why I would need a microwave. I will never be convinced that I need one & that’s ok. But I’m not about to start calling people names & being a jerk to microwave owners/users, telling them they’re lazy or can’t cook or are giving their family cancer or whatever else may be said about microwaves. For heavens sake, just stop being jerks.
Nat and indeed anyone can buy what ever you want. All I’m asking is that people think about what theyre buying and its value. Unfortunately all I can see with thermomix is slick marketing. Sorry if that offends or is cynical but that’s how I see it. Enjoy your product.
Whoops mine was meant to be a new comment – not sure how it got under here. Oh well.
Lisa, If I could get by without a car well id sell it straight away. Living in a semi rural area unfortunately I cant. True about Rivers re the wages they pay for their overseas manufacture but at least their Ballarat factories abide by laws here.
As I said its about thinking a bit about things a bit more deeply. I truly believe that its slick marketing over substance but if it works for you so be it.
PatrickC, the more you write, the more I know you don’t know much about the Thermomix. You’re what Hamish Blake calls a “Rejector”. He wrote an excellent article about them in today’s paper. I think this sums you up perfectly:
“The Rejector views the existence of any new piece of technology they don’t own as a personal insult against their ability to purchase and possess the appropriate products for their life, and will make it their mission to tell the world why they don’t need said product, and NEVER will. (Somewhere between Early Adopters and Rejectors is you, Normal People Who Can Weigh Up Purchases Without Emotion. But where’s the fun in writing about you guys?)
A common form of Rejector is the person who went out of their way to buy a non-iPod MP3 player and made sure everyone knew they’d shunned Apple. Then the iPhone came out and these people pretended THIS was the product they were waiting for, and it proved they were right to shun the iPod”
Megan, I’m sorry I’m not a rejecter, I’m actually an evaluator I embrace technology where its appropriate for me and provides a tangible benefit to me. The Thermomix doesn’t provide a tangible benefit to me. An Ipod did because I could use it when walking and riding my bike and I accept the trade off in the lower quality of sound for the convenience of having some music whilst doing physical activity. Which paper did Hamish write his article in. I’d like to read it in full. I find him most amusing.
I feel very fortunate in that I have been able to donate to charity as well as own a Thermomix
Lana that’s wonderful and I’m glad that you are able to do that. I’m not casting negative aspersions on people per say just asking them to think about what we purchase. I truly believe this product is marketing over substance but obviously many people love it. I wonder how many people will experience buyer remorse over the course of the next few years and question the purchase.
It’s like anything – for everyone I know with a dusty treadmill or weight bench in their garage I know someone else who uses theirs daily. Approaching 4 years with my Thermomix, no buyer remorse. My girlfriends & I get together monthly to do a bulk cook up and all bring our Thermomixes to the same location. Sometimes we have 6 on the go at once. Some of those women have had their Thermomix for 6 years. No one has buyer remorse. I’m not suggesting no one does, but seriously, do your homework & work out if it will work for you. I did 3 years of research & careful planning before I got one & it has not disappointed. I use it daily, often 4+ times.
Well if it works for you Nat that’s great.
I’m pretty much a throw back sort of bloke. I like to do things the older ways I suppose. I’m tactile with my cooking, I prefer physical books to e books, I like my music in a physical form not a down load and I write before I type documents, using a fountain pen in notebooks.
I like to feel the ingredients etc.
I suppose in relation to the thermomix I struggle with the thought of that sort of financial outlay and that is a big barrier to me ever purchasing it or indeed any other appliance. Life is busy but when it comes to weeknight meals in particular I try and plan around that. Especially when I’m working to deadlines. But I’m OCD and planning helps me get through my days and meet my deadlines. That’s not the way for everyone I suppose.
I’m sorry what? I have a Thermomix so I don’t meal plan? I plan 7 days in advance for my family’s meals. I spend Sunday morning meal planning, grocery shopping to said plan & then all Sunday afternoon cooking for the week. I’ve never downloaded a movie in my life, I don’t even own a computer (unless you call an iPhone a computer). You don’t know me. You think you know all about people that own or buy or love Thermomixes but seriously every single thing you have said, every nasty assuming remark, every judgement, is virtually the total opposite of who I and many other people who own thermomixes are. Before my thermomix I made my own curry pastes by crushing spiced in a mortor & pestle which took at least 30 minutes. I now have 2 children (with a 3rd on the way) & I don’t want to spend time doing that. I also work 30 hours a week, so I don’t use my Thermomix out of laziness. Tonight my family is dining on roast chicken with roast potatoes, made in my OVEN. I have TINKERED with this meal for much of the afternoon, & the reason I’m making this meal tonight is my Thermomix has been occupied to make cauliflower rice, coconut flour muffins, date balls, almond milk, and several other things I will remember when the white hot anger from reading your comment subsides. I will use my Thermomix to steam the green veggies but I will make the gravy in the roasting pan the old fashioned way. I’ve also had my dehydrator (yes another appliance) running to make raw flaxseed crackers that will last for the next 2-3 weeks. If that’s not “careful planning” I don’t know what is. I don’t care if you don’t love this appliance, or anyone else, but don’t sit there and judge me.
Nat I think your last post was a bit of an over reaction. I didn’t judge you or call you lazy. I simply said what I do. I didn’t judge you personally I just said that as I am OCD I need to plan out my week. Many people say that they have purchased this product as a time saver. From my perspective I said I, not you or anyone else plans my meals for the week as best as I can to get everything done. I said that yes I’m a throw back I did not pass comment on you. Perhaps you need to re read my comment because I wasn’t judging you. Wow.
I have one that my sister is looking after while I’m overseas and I have always used it but never had the obsession other people have. I find it is best for nut butter and a much better price or preparing things like risotto but then I still chop veggie by hand to add in to it to get the crunch. The varoma is great for fish and steamed veggies that still have the crunch. I find baked goods are often easier in a bowl as it’s easier to clean and even easier to buy them made at the shop.
Shows like masterchef have them too they use them for prep but you can still cook. Great if you buy herbs and want to chop them all up and freeze. I once bought a massive bag of garlic and had enough for months for way cheaper then those jars you get.
Like other people have said, it doesn’t do everything, it never will, get over that fact and use it for what it does best, make a pesto for your pasta and crunchy veggies, make an interesting sauce for your salads or chop something fine to add some extra nutrition into your normal salad, try a breakfast smoothie or banana icecream (just banana, cocoa powder and a bit of water to get it moving.)
I do think there are diehard fans but also a lot of people who just use it to help them with normal cooking and it does help to move away from packaged foods.
i don’t think you need to love an appliance just use it for what it is good for, then have some strawberry margaritas!!
Great comment – thanks Lisa xx
What about Salad Master? Any thoughts about it?
None at all
Wow Lana you hit a nerve with this piece didn’t you?! Nothing like an expensive kitchen appliance to get people talking.
I’ve had my Thermomix for 2 years now. And while I do love it, I go through phases with it. Sometimes I’ll be using it multiple times a day, sometimes a week will go by where I don’t use it. Like anything, sometimes I get in a rut using it for the same things over and over. And there are still many things – risottos, grilled meat, stir-fries – that I prefer to do on the stovetop. At the moment I tend to use it more for prep and baking than all-in-one meals as we tend to eat a lot of salads and grilled things in summer.
The best thing I’ve done is go to cooking classes with Dani Valent and get her In The Mix books. Then a friend and I organised a girls’ weekend away where we cooked lots of recipes from the books (including cocktails!). We used the Thermomix to do things like temper chocolate, make crumpets, whip up a divine mousse, mill spices and salt to cure salmon, make tortillas, experiment with raw desserts, make a strawberry gazpacho etc. It was inspiring and a lot of fun. Of course you could do many of these things without the TM, but it makes it so fast and easy – with 3 TMs on the go we made a huge amount of food (bubbles in hand!).
I think there is a quote along the lines of “what you say, so shall be”.
I think your problem in a nutshell is your expectations simply because you spent $2000. My oven is worth 5 times that amount and doesn’t get used daily. In fact, I can go weeks without using it. Does that then mean I don’t love it? Absolutely not! Another example, my car is worth 30 times more than my thermomix, during holidays it often sits unused in the garage for weeks, doesn’t mean I don’t love it!
If you are a cook who has lots of time and passion for slaving over a hot stove, the thermomix is not going to change your life. For me, I love cooking but also like attending to my children, having long showers, quickly vacuuming the floor all whilst dinner is cooking in my thermomix. Living in QLD there is absolutely no joy in slaving over a hot stove in the summer.
If you sincerely don’t like it, sell it and move on. If you wish to learn to cook using it, spend 5mins searching fb for thermomix pages and blogs. I do however suspect, it’s just not your cooking style so you should cut your losses, sell it and get back to slaving over a hot stove and loving it.
Determined to love it….. Just need to find ways to use it more !
Breads, pizza bases, toppings, jams, muffins, health bars, homemade sauces, freshly milled spices, perfect rice and so much more !! Pick up some of these items off the shelf and taste … then make your own … the difference in quality is like night and day. I cannot eat artificial anymore. Love my Thermomix (for 2 plus years).
I guess I just THOUGHT I would be making more meals and less snacks and sauces …
I’m a crunchy food lover too, so I mostly use thermie for making and stirring dressings and sauces into salads/ veggies in summer and easy soups in winter. That’s value enough for me, because our alternative on a cold winters night is http://www.crust.com.au !
Yup, dressing and sauces I got covered. Now I need to try the Varoma. I think.
Interesting reading. An honest account, without being disrespectful which is a breath of fresh air. Many who wish to air their difference of opinion seem to have the need to be rude at the same time. So Tq for that.
I am a TMx owner of 2 years and advisor. I have always had a love / hate relationship with cooking, but more importantly I just love eating. Prior to purchasing a TMX I googled and surfed the web for a better understanding of the product and I too wondered just how it would “change my life.” Now After reading your post and others comments I have looked back to see if it has actually changed my life, and if so in what way.
I guess I think of my TMX as you would think of or use a mixer, or hob, or scales, or food processor, or grater, or whisk, or steamer or even a knife etc. so it is all these things with the added bonus to me of the following…
To put it easily …..
– It has freed up cupboards of kitchen appliances I rarely used as I hated getting them out, setting them up, cleaning the multiple parts and then trying to fit them back in a cupboard or drawer.
– it has helped me eat healthier as I cook really easily from scratch so I know what goes in my food. Avoiding additional fat, preservatives, msg, aspartame, salt, sugar and other chemicals I really want to reduce or avoid.
– I can see where my ingredients are sourced, unlike when you just buy a sauce. And I know i could buy organic but it’s just so expensive. So I try to buy from local reputable suppliers helping the local economy and it’s certainly better than some imports covered in preservatives or from some countries that use pesticides the UK has banned.
– it’s easy to take apart and clean, (when it’s not self cleaning or in the dish washer) a big win for me
– is the food tastier? No I can honestly say YES to this. I think I forgot how food used to taste and should taste. I think I got used to mass produced food and sauces etc. All cooked for an average flavour for people, manufactured as easily and economically as possible, and to my taste buds, so it’s how salty, spicy or sweet as I want it. ….Now could I have done this without a TMX , yes definitely, but it would have taken me longer, it wouldn’t have been so easy to do and I always had trouble simmering without burning or even forgetting something was in the hob. So to be honest I wouldn’t have bothered
– Has it made me love cooking, NO not really but I don’t mind cooking the usual weekday and every day meals that sometimes get a bit boring to make.
– it has saved me money and less trips to the shops just by cooking from raw ingredients I have a well stocked store cupboard of ingredients instead of gadgets.
– I use it at least twice a day, from porridge to gravy, smoothies to custard, steamed fish to muffins sausages to veg. Etc.
I always suggest anyone wondering if they should buy one, to spend a week or two asking themselves (or me) if what they make can be made or prepped in a TMX. And if the answer is no for the majority of tasks then the TMX might not be for them. I would prefer to sell to someone who will get the most out of a TMX than someone who regrets buying one.
One of my customers is disabled with Fibromyalgia so standing stirring pots or just grating cheese hurts, and I know with her tiny kitchen she had no room for steamers, processors, mixers, scales etc and it has changed her life. She no longer has to try and lift different machines in to place to do different tasks, and certainly wouldn’t get a food processor out just to grate cheese, but does use the TMX as its always ready and cleans itself after so it’s never a problem to use it for the most simple of tasks.
So in answer to your post. It has made my life easier and healthier and saved me time, money, effort and space……. Which may be classes as life changing to some.
What a bloody awesome comment. THANK YOU xxxx x
Nothing like hands on personal cooking and love for a home cooked meal. if you want a life changing experience take some quiet time to look within rather than following a fad that generally puts your money in someone else’s pocket
Hi Lana,
Here are 10 reasons I hate my TM and related bits and pieces:
1. Only saved me $5 a week on total food expenditure (supermarket, fruit n veg, etc)
2. It can’t deep fry, nor churn and freeze.
3. The thermo bowl is not insulated enough for me to do away with wrapping the thing in 2 towels to make yogurt
4. It broils meats
5. The Veroma bowl is hard to clean (food keeps getting stuck into the oval holes)
6. It cannot seam rice evenly
7. I have had to amend most of the recipes to make them taste ‘right’ for me (including about half of the baking ones)
8. The spatula is over-engineered. They missed the most important thing for that: flexibility
9. It acts like a blade juicer which adds heat in the process of ‘juicing’ and that heat destroys the enzimes contained in fruit and veg.
10. It would be wonderful as a slow cooker, but the timer maximum is 1hr
Here are 10 things I like about my TM and related bits and pieces:
1. It makes dough with such high hydration I would not be able to kneed by hand (pizza, bread, etc). This allows the correct end result (soft fluffy breads)
2. I can make jams for about 15% less cost than my favourite brand.
3. I have amended the chocolate spread recipe so it tastes like actual Nutella that has no palm oil.
4. The ice cream recipe with eggs is perfect, better than the ones from my ice-cream maker
5. It cuts up to 1.2kg of onions quickly and evenly. We make curries for 14ppl on a regular basis. Ha, but only the bases can be made in the TM… the rest on the stove.
6. I love using it to wash the starch off rice and off raw lentils prior to cooking in other appliances.
(I put the rice or lentils in the bowl where the blade is, then put the steaming basket on top, fill with water and turn to reverse speed 3 for 5min. After that I hold the steaming basket in place and tip the whole bowl upside down. Love not having to keep stirring by hand and doing multiple washes with careful pours in between.)
7. Love grating parmesan in it.
8. Love making my own icing sugar
9. Saved a packet making my kids play dough for years
10. it’s the only appliance I have that allows me to make pandoro (Italian Xmas cake)
I love cooking by hand, with as little appliances as possible.
I can make better risotto in the pan in less time and without stirring it at all. (btw, the correct water to rice ratio is 300g Arborio rice : 750g water)
I use the TM nearly every day, but my verdict is that it is a great preparation appliance and a bad cooking one!
What a gorgeous, well thought out and brilliant comment. I could learn a lot from you xx
wow, lots of ‘opinions’ Lana you are an amazing cook so will never get the benefits some do who are not so yours is the time and efficiency factor same as mine (not that I am a good cook) my top faves so far are pizza bases, mashed potato, custard, steamed cheesecake, curry bases, quick risotto, sorbet, frozen margaritas, mayonnaise, using it for juicing as love getting the ‘whole’ fruit and yes baking of all things but thats about it..
Thanks Tessa – you had me at cheesecake! xxx
I borrowed a friends thermie for 2 weeks after going to a demo and being a little sucked in by the hype. The first night I had it I cooked the worst meal I have ever cooked for poor hubby in 14 year’s, it even surpassed the sausage pie incident from 2004. I used it a few more time to make bliss balls, custard and ice cream but really I was happy to hand it back at the end of the 2 weeks secure in the knowledge that’s my 2k will be better spent on a holiday or just anything other than a thermomix.
I want to hear about the sausage pie incident!!! x
Woah! I think you were right to be scared to speak your piece, Lana. W T actual!?!
Just wanted to let you know that I felt exactly the same way about the “Thermie” when I was left in charge of my friend’s when she went OS for a few months. It was good, it did the job, but I didn’t LOVE it and it definitely didn’t change my life.
My theory is that if you are already a competent cook (and you, my dear, are a FANTASTIC cook), it’s not $2000 worth of wow. It’s just not. The fact is, most cooking is MUCH easier than non-cooks think it is. x
Thank you Maxabella. I want you to come over to my house and eat more of my food xxx
Don’t have one, don’t intend on getting one… I just can’t justify the expense…. Wait a couple of years and there will a brand new fandangled machine out there that will do our grocery shopping for us too…I’m hanging out for that one!! It will probably be cheaper too……
Never heard of it. Not sure I want to know any more about.
*Keeps $2,000 for a new computer*
I stood up against joining this cult a few years ago (before it was truly a massive cult like today). Needless to say that I was immediately ostracized from said group of “friends” and to this day I have spoken to none of them. They all loved decrying how it made their life easier as they were so time poor.. but I am the one that works full time and they are all stay at home mums – you know the ones that just “do coffee” and get their nails done while kids are in daycare/school.. so how time poor can they be? I also have kids the same age as them so that was no excuse.
Call me bitter? Sure feel free, but I just didn’t see how it could be beneficial in my life.. I can still knock up a risotto in a short space of time because one does not need the thermostatussymbol sitting on ones bench to make hot wet rice… with no crunch. I too enjoy the creation and experimentation of food. It’s where all the enjoyment when eating it actually comes from!
Wow – that’s odd. That seems like more of a problem with a group of people than any thermomix. Fighting over a kitchen appliance – in real life. That is so strange.
Hi Lana, thanks for your blog post. I have been thinking about buying a thermomix for about a year but haven’t been able to bring myself to shell out $2,000 for it. My confession is I don’t love cooking, i wish I did, but I resent every minute i spend doing it. I do however LOVE food – the wholesome, healthy, tasty, homemade variety. I like the idea of a thermomix because I don’t have a huge family to feed and theoretically, you can chuck everything in there and the food will cook itself. That is a miracle to me. So if a thermomix can enable me to cook wholesome, healthy, tasty meals will minimal cooking and cleaning effort, then i’m sold and I’d be happy to buy yours from you 🙂
I find the discussion over Thermomixes fascinating. My first thought was no way too much money. But then my friends kept saying look into it. I was a mother of two working full time and I am a make from scratch cook and they all said it would be great for me. I am a researcher by nature so I researched for about six months before attending a demo.
We have food intolerance issues with gluten and milk (but not butter or cream? Haven’t worked that out yet). The Thermomix is the best thing I have ever bought. Most gluten free and dairy alternative food on the market is rubbish filled with terrible ingredients. Even basic nut and rice milks have carrageen in which my son reacts to. I love the challenge of taking non TM recipes and converting them.
My boys two most favourite dinners are the red Thai chicken curry from the basic cookbook but I exclude bamboo shoots and add sweet potato and cabbage instead and the Nasi Goreng from the quirky cooking cook book which is divine! The chicken is cooked in the frying pan – lots of crunch- but the rest in the TM & the sauce is so yummy.
I can quickly make cashew cheese, gluten free pizza bases which are awesome, milks, flours from nuts, legumes and sorghum and tonnes of other items.
The price argument is what I find fascinating. Yes $2K is a lot of money. When my husband spent $5k on a theatre system with a screen that covered an entire wall everyone was queuing at our door at grand final day and talking about how awesome it was. There is no health benefit whatsoever to my family having a theatre set up at home yet no one made any negative comments about it or the cost, quite the opposite. When he bought his Harley no one had a go at him about that either, very cool they all said and that was a lot more than $2k. And he is the only one that benefits.
But when I spent $2k on a machine that helps me make healthier food for my family, and let’s be clear there is nothing more important to our health than the food we put in our bodies, I got bagged out. I wasn’t offended, I had done my research and was secure in my knowledge that this was the right purchase for me. Other people’s angst was for them. But I find it fascinating.
I now buy less food ingredients and I am at the point where I am now almost entirely buying raw ingredients. I make my own sauces, mayonnaise, tartare etc.. I don’t make my own icing sugar as I don’t use it, I don’t make lots of breads and muffins etc. I do make icecream but I cheat as I only use two ingredients. I blitz frozen fruit then put the butterfly in and whip cream or egg white into the frozen fruit and serve immediately. Leftovers go in pop stick moulds.
I still use my slow cooker and my pressure cooker. The Thermomix is just another tool in my kitchen. I no longer have a bread maker, ice cream maker, blender, food processor or mixer as I use the Thermomix for all those functions.
I do think too many people buy them because everyone else has one and then expect miracles. It is just a machine. A well engineered, good quality machine. And yes I think it is worth the money. It will not change your life. Only you can decide to do that if you decide the change is necessary.
I would suggest as a society we need to change our priorities and stop admiring frivolous items like fancy TVs, flashy cars, expensive handbags, upgrading to the latest iPhone – ridiculous waste of money – and stop ridiculing people who make choices to support healthier lifestyles. 🙂
Chocolate! Forgot to mention chocolate. Love making my own. Raw cacao butter, raw cacao powder, rice syrup and coconut cream and sometimes add a few drops of orange oil. Never buy shop rubbish now. So yummy.
I think this is hilarious. I love to cook and a cooking appliance has never changed my life. I don’t even like to tinker … But I find good knife skills, decent pots, some time and a willingness to cook are more than enough for me … As I said. I think this post is hilarious.
So, I came to your blog today because I read another blog explaining how badly you’ve been treated by the TMX lovers after posting this blog. That makes me so sad! I have a TMX and I love it, but no way would I speak negatively about or to someone who didn’t! I promise that there are sane, non-obsessive people out there who own thermomixes. I’m sorry you don’t love yours, that would be awful after spending so much. Good luck with it all and I hope you can either use it for what it’s worth, or sell it to someone who will love it.
Love this post!
I have been to 2 demonstrations and have not bought one yet, apparently since everyone knows I love to cook and I am quite good at it, they think I would love this gadget so they keep inviting me to their demonstrations.
Thing is I manage to cook tons of great stuff, always from scratch and quite fast without it.
I did however purchase a very nice food processor, it did make a big difference, instead of spending 30 min grating mozzarella or 30min kneading dough every time I make pizza for 30 people (which happens often enough), I now grate cheese in 30 sec and make dough in under 10 min.
So if something cuts down on my preping time great, but I am hands on when it comes to cooking.
Besides the thermomix doesn’t peel, chop or shop for me so I don’t think I will be purchasing for now.
It would also cost me 2 months pay so its not even an option.
I wonder: Do people gain weight after purchasing? I rarely eat cookies, cakes, or anything with butter and cream and the thermomixer users seem to do a lot of that stuff.
Thanks for your post.
I love this post – for the effort put into making this work, and for all the tips in the comments.
How are you going with your TM now? Do you love it or hate it or something in the middle?
Read all these comments. I am not in love with my thermomix either. I liken owning one to giving birth to a child. Some days not so good and you can’t admit to not liking the child and certainly can’t give it back or sell it. I am finding it is convenient for some things and not so successful for others. Risotto, no luck whatsoever. Am pedalling on as I don’t want to admit I made a mistake. I enjoy experimenting with it and not having lots of dishes to wash. The jury is still out.
Hope you have more success than I did xx
I don’t have a thermomix I have one of the cheaper models and I love it. No i don’t cook in it everyday and somedays I cook 8+ things in it.
Have a look at Skinnymixers (curries, chicken kievs, laska, all in one meals, Nik has everything, lots of grain free, dairy free, lactose free recipes)- THE butter chicken is to die for
Thermobexta is great as well (vegetarian too)
The road to loving my thermomix is great for recipes and advise
Quirky cooking is healthy and has a range of different recipes
Thanks Stephanie – will keep searching
You are not alone! *Looking both ways sheepishly* (Fellow Thermomix owner here)
Your blog post came up in a google search I did for “Biggest CONS of cooking with a Thermomix”, (Con as in negatives, I just realised that could be taken as a pun lol)
My cousin is famous (literally, she has thousands upon thousands of followers), for her Thermomix recipes, it is her passion and it is wonderful seeing her create all of these lovely meals but her and I are like chalk and cheese. I am a throw-it-together-this-will-go-with-that kind of cook, so I find cooking with a thermomix somewhat challenging, having to follow everything in the recipe to a tee, otherwise you end up with curdled cream looking burnt brown scrambled eggs.
Much to my Thermie owning friend’s horror, I am still yet to find the amazing Thermomix created mains meal that I can make with absolute ease that is supposed to change my life forever.
I am not a big fan of soup and don’t care so much for risotto (it hates me actually quite literally, my body doesn’t process starch properly), or other goo like foods like quinoa.
So until that day arrives, I will be over here, *quietly* using my Thermomix for making slush foods for my kids and hubby and prep in chopping vegies and such for cooking on my stove!
Okay confession time, I do use my Thermie for 1 ridiculous food creation….I am an evil mother and I grind green dehydrated vegetables into a powder that I can then sneak into all manner of foods….(insert mwahh ha ha right there).
Happy cooking, thanks for sharing!
Hannah
Ha! Sneaky powder mum – I salute you. I have also found another very good use for the Thermomix. It is an incredibly expensive but accurate scale!
I am so glad I have found this blog…Thermomix???? I only found out about these 3 weeks ago at my daughters in Melbourne she was raving about the one her motherinlaw has I very politely asked what was it I had in my minds eye that thing that stacked up that cooked whole meals….Sorry don’t know what that’s called either..anyway she explained all be it in this wonderful I’m ecstatic world in which they come from I want one now type of voice what they did…well still not really sure when I returned home to Perth I looked them up ok they sound ok they do all this stuff I MIGHT look into getting one for her and hubby next Christmas. What about me would it be beneficial to me……well Im the lady who’s under 50 just whose kitchen appliance list goes like this hand mixer, bar mixer and attachments, juicer, bread mixer and the new acquisition slow cooker which apparently the knob on the lid is not meant to go in the oven, these I own these I use my cooking teacher, My great Grandmother yes born in 1898 would be horrified I own a bread maker but in all fairness it was a present. I don’t’, nor have I ever owned a food processor and the only reason I bought the attachments for the bar mix crumbing biscuits in a plastic bad and with a rolling pin became a danger to my bench top..So would a Thermomix do anything for my lifestyle in just 2 weeks I have researched them and have come to the staggering conclusion no not really but everywhere I turn everyone I ask all harp on about how great they are how they make all these wonderful things for their families and I think great now you can stop coming to my house…you see I gave up smoking and I became bored never realising how much time smoking took but also the brain energy required to logistically have a ciggy while still getting dinner on work finished and clothes either on or off the line in 45min. So I dusted off my recipe books and started cooking which has been good because I have not put on any extra weight as I don’t snack on junk and walk 3km most days..I look at the Thermomix and think I could make more stuff but no where in any of my recipe books does the method state add to Thermomix and I do have some wonderful recipe books some dating back to the early 1920s yes my Nanas, would I never be able to use these again would they go back to my draw and slowly disintegrate again, But all this aside I can justify having one to myself if I truly want one but the price of them is something I’m not sure I could justify to my family, for what they do and what I know I can do with just a bit of elbow grease and in the 11 min extra in the 45 min it took to have those 2 ciggies I can do it maybe not a well but my family will never say. I used to waste an awful amount of time in my busy busy day smoking. Plus not sure if someone who has never used a food processor should really think about having something that requires more than an on off switch. Thankyou for making me feel sane although you all knew what one was before I did… 🙂
Hey, dont worry, I dont love it either!
I’ve owned 2 of them and I’m a bit over it. This isnt real cooking anymore.
I love it for whizzing and grinding and mixing.. But I can do that in any other machine just as well.
As for steaming, well, I can do that in the microwave or wok.
All I do in it these days is make butter and whiz the odd thing up. Its a dust collector.
At the start I was using it 100 times a day. But then, I was making things I wouldn’t normally have made. I started eating more / worse things, because I felt the urge to use it and use it and use it to justify it.
Anyway, its gone. And I dont miss it. Also, I’d be keen to hear who liked the TM31 better than the TM5? I missed the simple knob on the front and the faster lid action…. Just my opinion of course.
But if were to offer advice, I’d say get a decent wok, a slow cooker and a good blender. You’ll be doing just as much, if not more, with less cost and more flavour.
Well, if I was like you I would not love it either, and I would not worry about it!
But I happen to be the opposite: I love healthy-fast food. I actually care for nutrition balance, healthy calorie count and organic food as much as for investing as little time as possible in making it when it comes to the daily routine (meaning, I can just have one plain lettuce with tuna for lunch) Porridge sounds like a great lunch to me, let alone risotto! Also I enjoy low-fat creams where I can throw all my fresh veggies in. I enjoy doing anything else while my food just cooks on its own, such as talking with my daughter about our things, helping her out with whatever she needs, and doing my own things (work, study…) too, of course. And Thermomix ensures that something much more proper and tasty will come out instead of just throwing on the plate a bunch of plain raw vegetables with some lean protein and a few nuts for healthy fat.
And I also like pampering my little one when she’s sick. I always take out my herbs and things before reaching out for stronger chemicals if they are ever needed. But I rather spend my time taking her temperature to control how she’s doing than taking the soup’s temperature.
FancyFan says:
“But I happen to be the opposite: I love healthy-fast food. I actually care for nutrition balance”
Eh? So you’re saying that others don’t care for healthy food or nutrition..? Just you? Ok
The rest is just rambling about your daughter being sick? How often could that conceivably happen?
I get what your’e saying. I’m starting to think that a lot of people with thermomixes have never cooked/ hate cooking. So I’m taking the comments on recipes with a grain of salt and when they rave about them and how delicious they are – I make it and think meh…..very similar to what it tasted like when I cooked it without my machine (magimix cook expert)
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